Today we are featuring an
extremely talented FX artist from Copenhagen Denmark. With 10 years
of experience in sculpting, mask making and FX, for films T.V. and
live theatre, I give you the FX Tailor...Anders Lerche.
NE-FX: Welcome to
NE-FX! Thank you for taking the time to speak to me today. Lets get
right into the questions...With such an array of experience, let’s
begin 10 years ago. You were 22 and what were you doing as far as a
career and education?
AL: I had started
working my way through Dick Smith Monster makeup hand book, a
finding out as much about those so-called 'splatter movies', that
showcased all those impossible things that I was attracted to.
NE-FX: What were you
doing at the time for your 'regular job' when you were attempting to
learn about makeup effects?
AL: I had some
'Mc-jobs' during the years, mostly selling toys in Toys R Us, since
it sorta resembled my interest in movies. Well, thats what I thought
when I started, course' it soon turned out to be just a another job
and I had zero chance for creativity. But you have to make ends
meet, and save what is inside of you for when someone can appreciate
that. Also I had some years of unemployment, but got through and
made some contacts along the way. You got to take everything that
comes your way and get as much experience as possible really.

NE-FX: Your bio says
you are completely self-taught. Have you ever sought
professional training? and if So, Where?
AL: No, but I had
contemplated many times perhaps going to M.U.D in L.A., or taking
a class by Jordu Schell.
Hopefully one day, I will be able to get Dick Smith course, his big
book of 50 years of knowledge in the makeup and film
industry.(Editors Note: for more infor on the Dick Smith Make-up
course see http://www.dicksmithmake-up.com/
NE-FX: M.U.D has a good reputation in the
industry. Dick is the master for sure. Jordu is a great guy,
extremely talented and an incredibly fast sculptor. Very
generous with his time and an avid fan of Dick Smith too.
It seems that everyone in this field when they first start,
seem to be expected to work for free. I assume you did your share of
work that was basically for lunch and a credit?
AL: Oh, yeah, and lots
of it. Just to get paid for the materials and to get some practice
was enough for me. But that time is over now. In the end, no one
respects your work if its free. When they have to pay a bill, they
will appreciate if what you have done if it was good for them.
NE-FX: I noticed that one of your masks was inspired
by a creation of Dick Smith's, can you tell us more about it?
AL: Yes, the faceless
horror thingy was taken from 'Ghost story' since it's such a
brilliant concept. No eyes, just a dark void with nasty teeth! His
entire body of work is what have brought this field of profession so
far and given us, the filmgoers some revolutionary experiences. His
effects are both mesmerizing and invisible, in such a way that they
disappear and become real. The story should always be the driving
for and the effect only the nice set of wheels on the truck ;)
NE-FX: What was your
first paying job in FX?
AL: I suppose my first
paying job was when I started taking two dollars to paint people
faces as Orcs, in some Danish Live action role-play. This I really
what kept me afloat financially, and what gave me my experience.
There was a unlimited amount of people who needed ears, noses, masks
and prosthetics for this kind of activity. Its quite big here in
Scandinavia you know.
NE-FX: Can you tell us a bit more about
L.A.R.P.?
AL: Live Action Role
Play (L.A.R.P.) is where I have been working for the past 10 years,
and a friend and I have recently started a company, Jotunheim Productions, that
manufacture and sell latex prosthetics, mask and suits to many of
the Danish LARP shops. We have 4 to 6 people working at our shop and
are using up to 20 gallons of latex per month making Orc masks. It a
dream come true and quite amazing that it's actually possible to
make money doing these things for a living. But it has also taken a
long journey to get to this point, more than 10 years and to do just
the things that I like, and not to struggle all the time to make
ends meet.
NE-FX: What FX artists
work have served to inspire you?
AL: Rick Baker was a
great idol back when I was younger and I can definitely feel myself
in his shoes when I, as him, also go a divorce from my wife. But all
for the better, really. But also people like Gordon smith, for his
extreme realism, Jordu for his crazy modeling skills, and Savini for
his attitude. Then there are illustrators like Brom, Giger, and the
whole crew behind WETA Workshop- these are people that can
constantly amaze and inspire me.
NE-FX: Sounds like you are preparing your
oscar speech. I see you have attended the Makeup Artist Magazine
Trade Show before, and even competed, winning 3rd prize in 2001 for
your Hans Christian Andersen makeup. (http://www.makeupmag.com/archives/summer_2001.htm)
What can you tell us about that makeup, as it seemed to be very
complex?
AL: Well, I started
making the makeup in foam latex, but it seemed lifeless and dull to
me. I then began experimenting with foamed gelatin, and did a 6
piece overlapping makeup of him, which I (at that time) felt was the
best I could do. However, since I had to transform a 30-year-old
girl to Hans Christian (who by the way was a not particularly
handsome man) the pieces ended up being quite thick, up to an inch
in some places. If I had have had someone with as deep-set eyes as
Hans Christian, I would have worked a lot better. But, who is ever
completely satisfied with their work, really?
NE-FX: Do you regularly
attend the trade show? and What do you think of them?
AL: Unfortunately no,
iv'e only been to one in L.A. They seem like a wonderful events and
are a great opportunity to both meet a lot of talent and make some
connections. I wish I had more time to be there when they take
place, perhaps in London next year.
NE-FX: Do you consider
yourself more of a sculptor, mask-maker or makeup artist?
AL: I don't like labels
as such. I do a lot of masks at the moment, which entails a little
of everything. I'm an artist, and I like to do what ever I can to
express myself creatively.
NE-FX: You are listed
as Special Effects Makeup Artist for 'Gabriel's ord' on IMDB ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0503481/
). How does it feel being on IMDB and are they up to date?
AL: Well, it sort of
made me proud, but no one has ever seen the movie, so what good does
it do? It's just a short movie after all and they don’t get show
that much after a while. I haven't done many more things in Danish
films, since most of the jobs a taken by 2 or three very talented
individuals here, and effects are only rarely used anyways.
NE-FX: Well, don't lose
hope. After all, the New Zealanders only needed one crazy director
who looked a bit like a hobbit. You also did “One Hell of a
Christmas”? ( http://www.tvguide.com/search/index.asp?keyword=Anders+Funch+Lerche)
What was that like?
AL: Well, I did a
single demon makeup, which looked alright, but only got shown for 3
seconds end the end. The actor was a bit of a wuss, and would let me
get near his eyes or take a good casting of his face. Unfortunately
the film is quite atrocious, and it saddens me to see that the
director didn't think the plot through more carefully. This movie
should be at the bottom of IMDB bottom 100, it's such a mess.
NE-FX: Ouch! What kind
of development time do you need to make a mask from idea to
completion?
AL: That depends. I
have a personal record, which is 5 days for a full head Orc mask.
This was only because I was inspired and less interrupted than I use
to be. A good sculpt should be looked at again and again, thought
trough anatomically and researched with what others have done when
they made something similar. An then in the end you shouldn't really
care about them, because you can never really be original, only show
something different in your own interpretation.
NE-FX: I love the cave
troll suit. What special challenges did you come across while making
it?
AL: That is was so damn
huge! The weight problem, how to get in and out of it (industrial
size zipper in the back) and just how 4 hair dryers can blow dry 4
gallons of latex and foam rubber in a months time. He had his own
water supply bottle inside and a small fan on top of his head.
Without that fan the guy inside would explode from the heat.
Actually Peter Jackson saw the Cave troll at the Danish Premiere for
Return Of The King, said 'That's amazing!” and the Cave troll gave
him a big hug. That made his father here quite proud...
NE-FX: Many of your
creations have a vary polished look complete with wardrobe and
contact lenses. Do you create your own wardrobe and lenses?
AL: The lenses are
usually someone’s or maybe borrowed for the production. The wardrobe
are L.A.R.P. people, who are quite creative. We are setting up a
sewing shop at the moment, and will also be looking into S&M
clothing and special creations for people with fetishes.
NE-FX: How do I open an
account? [kidding] What advice do you have on lenses and wardrobe
for makeup artists?
AL: That it is really important to have
things in balance, and as much as possible go all the way. Stage
some good photos, remember how people clothing should reflect how
they look (' No, you have to have some blood on you shirt, your
throat has been cut' and also look at the background. There are a
lot of my photos that I would change if I could.
NE-FX: It's obvious
that Peter Jackson’s “Lord of the Rings” films inspired you. What
would you say to Weta's designers if you had the chance?
AL: Please give me a
job! [wink wink] I have spoken to Warren Mahy, Ben Wootten
and Allan Lee and thanked them for bringing this world to the big
screen. The have created something fresh, something slightly offbeat
in style but real and not Hollywood. I hope that their King Kong
film is going to both rock and move us to laughter, tears and just
utter amazement once again.
NE-FX: Lets talk about
some of your other influences. What other movie in the last three
years has served to inspire your work the most?
AL: That would be Lord
of The Rings again. I guess I would be out of work if these films
had not been made or had failed artistically.
NE-FX: What movie are
you most anticipating?
AL: Apart from 'The
Return Of The King Extended Edition', which in my opinion is the
real LOTR film and not the 'long trailer' from the cinema, I am also
looking forward to 'The Lion The Witch And The Wardrobe', and on a
lesser note, 'Revenge Of The Sith', just to see if George Lucas
finally can deliver the proper Star Wars feel this time.
NE-FX: I sure George
doesn't know either. You mentioned theatre was one of
the facets you worked in. What effects have you been called on
to create for the theatre?
AL: I've worked
on The Phantom Of The Opera in Copenhagen during its first season.
Nice play, great people except some lead actor who really took the
joy out of the work. But as this was a MC Donald's kind of show, and
had to be the same all over the world, you were not allowed to
change or refine the makeup for Phantom. I'm hoping that the new
film with him will give us something a bit more updated and
realistic.
NE-FX: Same question
for commercials?
AL: I've made some elf
ears withes noses, fake steaks and some over sized props for some
Danish commercials during the years. It has always been delightful
to work with people, especially when they were really creative and
knew exactly what they wanted. You should always remember that your
own outlandish ideas may be too extreme for prime TV and that you
are not hired to be an 'Artist', but just a worker who deals with
makeup.
NE-FX: Here in the US
high definition T.V. is becoming more and more prevalent. Have you
ever had to work under HD's higher standards?
AL: Unfortunately it's
not gotten to Denmark yet, so... no. It seems that the picture will
become clearer and a lot of bad edges will become more visible now.
Better start saving that Bondo.
NE-FX: Have you ever
worked with make-ups that involved CGI before?
AL: Can't
say that I have, but I would love to see some CGI eye enhancement
for some of my Orcs.
NE-FX: Did you hear
that? any of you computer FX freaks want practice? Call Anders! The
new generation of FX artists are concerned about the potential of CG
and it's meaning for their careers. With the creation of digital
characters like Gollum that act interactively with the help of
talent, what concerns do you feel are valid and invalid about CG
displacing the traditional makeup artist?
AL: It's not a threat,
just an adjustment, like when sound or color was invented. CGI can
make monsters look 99% real, but someone still has to sculpt them
and make up some paint schemes. I still think that actors need
something to relate to and not just act opposite a green screen.
It's still too expensive to put on a beard or wig digitally, so I
guess my job is secured in that regard. Maybe Gino Acevedo down at
WETA can answer this better than I can.
NE-FX: Good point,
maybe we'll ask him. Where do you go for a late night burger in
Copenhagen?
AL: There are the usual
international Burger joints here in Copenhagen (but oddly no Star
bucks...yet) and they are as dull as they are fattening. However in
the start of the walking street Strøget, just to you left, they have
some good Kebabs and Falafel shops. Also a chain called 'Den Sorte
Gryde' (The Black Cauldron') sell these enormous burgers in a truly
Texan style size meal. They are good if you are really starving and
want value for you money. Give me a call and I can show around. You
wouldn't want to miss the Danish girls either.
NE-FX: I noticed that
MonsterMakers ( http://www.monstermakers.com/gallery.html
) has your work on their site. What was that like?
AL: I sent them some
pictures many years ago and they put them on. It some of my really
early work, and it sort of odd to still see them around when I look
at my name in Google. But it makes me feel proud to be represented
at this site to know that someone will see my work and think 'Hmm, I
can do that better'. That’s how I started really.
Thanks again Anders. There
you have it FX fans, be sure to check out Anders Lerche's work at http://www.fxtailor.dk
and http://jotunheim.nu
Also, be sure to keep an eye out for him at the trade shows.
You never know who you are going to meet in an orc
mask.